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Apple 20 GB iPod (M8741LL/A, July 2002 Version)

Apple 20 GB iPod (M8741LL/A, July 2002 Version)

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Rating: 5 stars
Summary: best ipod out there
Review: great for storing your documents for backup and for listening to music. it's thicker than the 10gb model but only slightly....

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Reply for MusicMatch, skipping while jogging
Review: Hi, quick note:
1) XPlay software (3rd party) works perfectly, buy it, don't
even think about installing MusicMatch
2) I have run for >1 hr. straight w/o the iPod skipping once.
I did hold it in my hand, perhaps in a pocket/on the body
passes too much shock on to the unit. Worked fine for me,
though.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The Fix For MusicMatch - Ephpod
Review: ...Instead, take the disk that comes with it and put it away. Never, ever install it. Instead go do a search for Epdpod. Download and install that. Its basically everything MusicMatch was supposed to be but wasn't. Pretty much every problem you will have with MusicMatch does not exist with this software. Even better, its free. Repeat, do not ever install MusicMatch, install Ephpod.
Ephpod and iPod, a wonderful match.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Almost convinced me to by an Apple
Review: This is the second purchase of an MP3 for me. My first is the Rio Riot after 6 months they finally seem to have their act together after firmware & other updates. Still I dont trust the unit as I dont have the time for a unit the can't be recognized at times. Very frustrating. Admidantly, I haven't had this problem for several months. Ohter than this downfall I like the Riot. I t is in my opinion the most aggresively priced MP3 that works as advertised. I believe the kinks have been worked out wit the Rio Riot. It's just too big to carry around comfortably.
Enter the Windows Ipod. It too has major problems. the Musicmatch software is definitely a challenge. Even the tech people at MM dont know how to fix the inherent problems. I too had no problems loading the software on the laptop. but when it came to my desktop it took me two days to figure out what was going on. I was on my own as the MM techis were useless. "Oh, we'll have an update sometime to fix these problems.

The problems was that for some reason that MM would not load the complete files needed to run the hardware. I looked at Windows Explorer and found out what files needed to be added to the desktop and transferred them with a USB storage unit. Voila the software worked as it was suppose to. I did a little jury rigging and put the icon that is suppose to be on the task bar by transfderring to the desktop . When I haveto use the Ipod I just doubleclick the desktop icon and it appears on the taskbar.

What amazes me is that MM is of no help to their customers on
this important matter.

If Apple wants to charge a premium for their product without getting a bad name for themselves with the Windows crowd which is an untapped major income stream for them they shoud get to work on this pronto.
I almost bought an Apple notebook. But after, this experience in arrogance I don't care to buy their products and will stick with Windows. I was really opened minded to give Apple a try. No More!! They blew it.
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Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Great MP3 Player Overall
Review: Just a little background... I've owned a couple other MP3 players before this one. One being a hard drive unit (nomad) and the other was a smaller solid-state type from creative (can't remember the name). Both were really bad from a number of standpoints, but I won't go into that.

Anyway, I've got to say in Apple's defense, I don't find the price excessive. Apple went out of their way and appear to have selected\built in some very nice quality "user interface" features. This isn't a cheap plastic molded device that cost apple $40 to make. Being in electronic design, I can tell ya the LCD screen is top notch...I would guess they pay quite a bit for that alone. EVERYTHING else follows suit. So although it's not cheap in comparison to other "similar" products, you DO get what you pay for in hardware and software.

I will agree with everyone that musicmatch isn't great. In fact, I went ahead and invested in 3rd party software which I REALLY like. IMO, it's worth it!

Also, to those that are not satisfied with the "load time" between songs, especially when your trying to play cross\beat mixed tracks, I suggest you buy or download some freeware that takes the multiple tracks that you want and makes ONE MP3 file. Problem solved.

My ONE single complaint about this is the lack of an FM receiver and or voice recorder. This is the reason for the one missing star. Should have been included...it's cheap to build-in and wouldn't affect the power\size at all.

If you want the best and can part with the money, this is DEFFINATLY the one you want for now.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: As Mindblowing as the Original Walkman!
Review: I think the 20 gb iPod is so superbly designed and integrated with the Mac OS 10.2 operating system it is as revolutionary as the original Walkman. I have over 700 songs, 2000 digital photos, all my contacts, calendars for my wife and two kids and a backup of my system folder on my iPod...with about 8gb of room to spare. It is so easy and simple to use it blows me away. Everything about it is so well designed and thought out!!

Buy one...you'll never regret it!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: SO EASY
Review: I'VE HAD MY IPOD FOR 1 WEEK AND I LOVE IT. IT IS SO EASY TO USE (MOST ELECTRONICS ARE TO CONFUSING) JUST ONE, TWO, THREE. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE IPOD TO PEOPLE WHO WANT A PRODUCT THAT IS COOL, HIGH TECH AND SIMPLE TO USE.
PS: I AGREE THE MUSICMATCH SOFTWARE IS NOT PERFECT, BUT OVERALL NOT BAD

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Apple 20GB Ipod
Review: I've had my 20GB Ipod for over a month and I have to say that I love it. I've put all my music on it and brought it with me wherever I go-my car (with a CD-to-cassette adpater) or home stereo (with a 3.5mm to AC adapter). I like it so much that I feel like I need two of them so I don't have to move it from my car to my home stereo (or vice versa). The device is nicely designed and is very easy to use. One complaint I have is the Musicmatch program. I'm sure I'm not the only who has complained about the Musicmatch program. First of all, it took me awhile to install it. Then, it crashed several times. If you do get the program working, you'll discover many bugs with the program. The songs/artists will be repeated 2-3 times even if on the computer, it indicated that there was only one song. On-line support was not very helpful either. I believe that Apple should really use another software with the Ipod.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: MusicMatch is Definitely a Joke and Other Issues...
Review: Trust Me-MusicMatch can ruin one's iPod experience (so many glitches, I will not even try to list them). ... Don't get my review wrong-I like my iPod and use it daily and probably would not buy any other model, but ... I think they need to change a few other things. ...

1) Apple needs a separate PC website because PC support online is basically non-existent.

2) No audible.com (audible book service) support for Windows-based users. Additionally, it looks like Apple has an updated Mac iPod Updater (1.2.1 recently came out) but not a corresponding new Windows iPod Updater and the website does not tell you that the update is not compatible with Windows. PC iPod's should have the same support and features as Mac-user iPods and it seems like there could be a divergence.

3) "SOUND CHECK" is a volume stabilizing feature on the iPod but it is not compatible with MusicMatch 7.1's "Volume Leveling" and therefore, effectively not compatible with Windows-based iPods. This is a great feature and it is wrong that it is not currently being supported in Windows.

4) Cannot add "Composer" tag (used on the iPod) through MusicMatch and other music management programs.

5) iPod's Internal Software. I have suggested many of these changes to Apple:

A) Long song, artist, and album names get cut off and some songs have the same name (happens when you have 1000s of songs), which can lead to confusion. There is a screen (I believe browse...albums...all songs) where the songs are not in alphabetical order but in album order but the names of the corresponding albums are not on the screen. Apple should add length (time), album, artist name, genre and track number of a song after the song title when the song title is highlighted for a certain amount of time. I think this could be accomplished by automatic scrolling over to the information when the song is highlighted and the longer the song is highlighted the more information is revealed. This could be especially helpful for songs with the same name, which happens when you have lots of songs. Further, this could alleviate the problem with song titles being too long for the browse screen and this happens a lot with different remixes. Also, there are album titles that are too long for the screen, too (for example, "100 Masterpieces of Classical Music (Vol .1)" vs. "100 Masterpieces of Classical Music (Vol .2)" vs. "... (Vol .3)" and so on) and scrolling over to reveal the full title and artist would be excellent (and if there is more than one artist for an album, it could say "Various Artists") because right now if an album title is too long (and the same with artist name), there is no way to see the full title on the iPod even in the "Now Playing" screen (it only scrolls to reveal the full song name).

B) Add day of the week to the clock.

C) Songs that have no album title (missing tag) should be put under a "Miscellaneous" or "No Album Title" when browsing "Artists...Albums". Since these songs are not included in the album listings, they will not play if you were to play from the album screen or when shuffling by albums.

D) Apple should add scan or intro that plays the first 10 seconds or so of songs (and you should be able to do this randomly and within artists, composers, genres, albums, and playlists) until you hit a button and then it will play that song and will resume the scan after the song. This is extremely nice when you have thousands of songs on your iPod and don't want to sit there and hunt for the song.

E) Playlists. Currently, you have to download playlists (not only song order but the actual songs so if you already have the songs in the playlist on your iPod, you will have duplicate songs) from your computer. Therefore, you should be able to create playlists on the fly from the files that are already on the iPod. More importantly and at least, I would like to be able to create a queue list (even just one queue list at a time would be fine) so I can choose a song to play and then choose the next song to play and the next and so on and being able to save it as a playlist would be a great bonus.

F) Add .wma file support.

G) The iPod places the group "Lo Fidelity Allstars" in the "F" section (rather than "L") like it does for the titles that begin with "The" and the same happens with titles that start with "De"). This should not happen in English menus.

H) Add support for second artists and song comments tags.

7) FireWire Issues. As a PC user (especially laptop users and 4-pin FireWire card users), you may have to buy a new FireWire card and an AC adapter if you want to supply power to the iPod while connected to your computer because many PC FireWire cards do not supply power to the peripherals. There is not a separate power source on the iPod other than its FireWire port (which is can be connected to the FireWire card OR to the AC Adapter but not both). Downloading songs can be lengthy and battery intensive so the battery may only last for an hour or two while downloading via a non-powered FireWire card and so you will have to recharge before downloading to the iPod again.

Rating: 1 stars
Summary: Piece of Junk
Review: I thought I was buying the answer to all of the portable players problems and further more, a beautiful work of art. Boy was I wrong. First off, the unit has NO moving parts. So can someone explain how after having it for less than week it has crashed on me three times, when I jog with it. Not only does it freeze and it is unaccesible no matter what, but I have to let the battery be used up(10 hours) and then fully charge it again(4 hours) before it starts working again. The Musicmatch software reminds me of DOS software from the late eighties. There is so much great music software out there. I don't think it would hurt the narcissistic people at MAC who developed this software to look around and see that things can be much simpler and easier. And last the device is impressively beautiful, until you touch it and you can see fingerprints all over it. Not only that but the carrying case bastardizes any grace and sleekness the device has. Ends up looking like a big bulky cassette player.

Oh and I almost forgot all of this for the price of [$$$]. Give me a break.


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