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The Creation of the Modern World: The British Enlightenment

The Creation of the Modern World: The British Enlightenment

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Rating: 2 stars
Summary: Great book, idiotic review
Review: I have read this book and enjoyed it. I can recommend it highly. On the other hand, however, I neither enjoyed nor can endorse the witterings of Larry Brown of Amazon.co.uk who appears to believe that Scotland is not in Britain!! Err, as they say across the pond - DOH!!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Comprehensive and well-documented
Review: I'm pretty impressed by the extensive documentation, not just in the bibliography but also in the endnotes. Porter hardly mentioned Ben Franklin, who was after all American. But as a Briton before 1776 Franklin too was part of the British Enlightenment.

Porter placed particular emphasis on the role of Priestley, whom he said is often neglected. I think Porter was exactly right about Priestley, who was probably as important as Hume, Locke or anyone else to the British Enlightenmnt for advocating free inquiry and truth; let inquiry be free and truth be told though Christianity itself may fall, said Priestley, who was a Christian theologian. Those were pretty strong words to come out of a preacher in those days when atheism was a crime.

The British played as big a role in the Enlightenment as the French. Of that there can be no doubt after this book. Americans too made their contribution, as Henry Steele Commager said in his book The Empire of Reason," but until 1776 this was part of British Enlightenment.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Comprehensive and well-documented
Review: I'm pretty impressed by the extensive documentation, not just in the bibliography but also in the endnotes. Porter hardly mentioned Ben Franklin, who was after all American. But as a Briton before 1776 Franklin too was part of the British Enlightenment.

Porter placed particular emphasis on the role of Priestley, whom he said is often neglected. I think Porter was exactly right about Priestley, who was probably as important as Hume, Locke or anyone else to the British Enlightenmnt for advocating free inquiry and truth; let inquiry be free and truth be told though Christianity itself may fall, said Priestley, who was a Christian theologian. Those were pretty strong words to come out of a preacher in those days when atheism was a crime.

The British played as big a role in the Enlightenment as the French. Of that there can be no doubt after this book. Americans too made their contribution, as Henry Steele Commager said in his book The Empire of Reason," but until 1776 this was part of British Enlightenment.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A grandiose title, but a great book
Review: Roy Porter's discussion of the British enlightenment may not be an "untold story," but it is an important story that is often underemphasized in the history of the enlightenment. The essence of Porter's argument is that Britain did, in fact, have an enlightenment as vibrant and relevant as those more studied enlightenments in France and Germany.

In the first half of the book, Porter demonstrates the existence of a British enlightenment through a dense, narrative argument that tracks contemporary discussions in various realms of study, such as religion, science, human nature, and politics. The result is an impressive vision of a new environment of intellectual activity in eighteenth century Britain, as thinkers sought to express "new mental and moral values, new canons of taste, styles of sociability and views of human nature."

Meanwhile, across the Channel the French philosophes reacted against religious intolerance with atheism and against the abuses of absolutism with republicanism. English thinkers of the eighteenth century lacked such divisive issues: religious toleration, at least of a rudimentary sort, was established by 1689, and absolutism had died with Charles I in 1649. As a result, the enlightenment in Britain stressed "the drive not to subvert the system, but to secure it so as to achieve individual satisfaction and collective stability." Thus in Britain the eighteenth century, like so many other centuries, was characterized by a reforming gradualism rather than an oppositional radicalism.

In the second half of the book, Porter examines the results of enlightenment. He argues that the overall condition of women did not worsen during the century and tentatively suggests that it improved, citing observations of foreign visitors who noted the relative freedom of women in Britain. Also, he emphasizes the importance British intellectuals placed on education as a means for improvement, foreshadowing the arguments of such nineteenth century liberals as Mill.

Finally, Porter investigates the effects of the revolutions in America and France on the British enlightenment. The revolt of the American colonies served to radicalize the enlightenment in Britain, as intellectuals suddenly saw their enlightened Britain acting an oppressive role across the Atlantic. The initial stages of the French Revolution furthered this effect, as sympathetic organizations sprouted across Britain. However, the Terror divided British intellectuals: most, including Burke, Coleridge and Malthus turned reactionary, while others such as Byron and Hazlitt remained true to their enlightened principles and mourned current events. However, even the Terror did not terminate the British enlightenment, as many of its ideals quickly reemerged in the form Victorian liberalism.

Highly recommended as a foundational text in British history and/or as comparative book for the study of continental enlightenments. Well written with extensive endnotes and bibliography.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: A grandiose title, but a great book
Review: Roy Porter's discussion of the British enlightenment may not be an "untold story," but it is an important story that is often underemphasized in the history of the enlightenment. The essence of Porter's argument is that Britain did, in fact, have an enlightenment as vibrant and relevant as those more studied enlightenments in France and Germany.

In the first half of the book, Porter demonstrates the existence of a British enlightenment through a dense, narrative argument that tracks contemporary discussions in various realms of study, such as religion, science, human nature, and politics. The result is an impressive vision of a new environment of intellectual activity in eighteenth century Britain, as thinkers sought to express "new mental and moral values, new canons of taste, styles of sociability and views of human nature."

Meanwhile, across the Channel the French philosophes reacted against religious intolerance with atheism and against the abuses of absolutism with republicanism. English thinkers of the eighteenth century lacked such divisive issues: religious toleration, at least of a rudimentary sort, was established by 1689, and absolutism had died with Charles I in 1649. As a result, the enlightenment in Britain stressed "the drive not to subvert the system, but to secure it so as to achieve individual satisfaction and collective stability." Thus in Britain the eighteenth century, like so many other centuries, was characterized by a reforming gradualism rather than an oppositional radicalism.

In the second half of the book, Porter examines the results of enlightenment. He argues that the overall condition of women did not worsen during the century and tentatively suggests that it improved, citing observations of foreign visitors who noted the relative freedom of women in Britain. Also, he emphasizes the importance British intellectuals placed on education as a means for improvement, foreshadowing the arguments of such nineteenth century liberals as Mill.

Finally, Porter investigates the effects of the revolutions in America and France on the British enlightenment. The revolt of the American colonies served to radicalize the enlightenment in Britain, as intellectuals suddenly saw their enlightened Britain acting an oppressive role across the Atlantic. The initial stages of the French Revolution furthered this effect, as sympathetic organizations sprouted across Britain. However, the Terror divided British intellectuals: most, including Burke, Coleridge and Malthus turned reactionary, while others such as Byron and Hazlitt remained true to their enlightened principles and mourned current events. However, even the Terror did not terminate the British enlightenment, as many of its ideals quickly reemerged in the form Victorian liberalism.

Highly recommended as a foundational text in British history and/or as comparative book for the study of continental enlightenments. Well written with extensive endnotes and bibliography.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Good book and good review
Review: This is not the book that Roy Porter should have written. He obviously has a great desire to set the world on its ear and discover great things, which is fine. But the English Enlightenment is not the undiscovered contintent he is looking for. It reminds me of an old saw my professor used to begin his courses with, "Don't worry, I am not here to discover America all over again. That is something that can only be done once, and its been done. "This is not to say that there is not some fine learning in this book. But, "the first history of the forgotten Enlightenment...?" Dismiss the hype and the premise that all other historians are idiots and you have a good study of the English Enlightenment.

Rating: 3 stars
Summary: This is not the book that Roy Porter should have written
Review: This is not the book that Roy Porter should have written. He obviously has a great desire to set the world on its ear and discover great things, which is fine. But the English Enlightenment is not the undiscovered contintent he is looking for. It reminds me of an old saw my professor used to begin his courses with, "Don't worry, I am not here to discover America all over again. That is something that can only be done once, and its been done. "This is not to say that there is not some fine learning in this book. But, "the first history of the forgotten Enlightenment...?" Dismiss the hype and the premise that all other historians are idiots and you have a good study of the English Enlightenment.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: Good book and good review
Review: Usually it's a case of extracting Scottish history from Anglocentric history books, but in the case of the Enlightenment we have the opposite scenario. This book fills a needed void then. This is also a useful book since many of the people mentioned are underrated or their influence misunderstood. Not only that but some of these people were to influence others who came later in their family - Erasmus Darwin, Wollstonecroft (on the Shelleys- her daughter's Frankenstein being a seminal SF work)...

Despite the protestations of the Little Englander from Hong Kong (Michael Wheatley) below, Britain and England are the same thing (3/4 of the time minimum). He should know, after all he reviewed a Cantonese Chinese dictionary as well and there is no separate word for "Britain" in that language, only England and Scotland. In fact the English have been referring to their country alone as "Britain" since at least the 1300s (William Langland) and the first reference to the "British Empire" is in the 1400s.


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