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Irish America : Coming Into Clover

Irish America : Coming Into Clover

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Rating: 5 stars
Summary: "Now ,don't go getting above buttermilk."
Review:
I've not heard the above saying before,but knew immediately exactly what it meant.This book is an excellent review of what it means to be Irish and what Irish,and particularly Catholic Irish is all about.
There are over 50 million scattered around the world who claim Irish ancestory;and by no means are they all alike.
"Almost anything you can say about Irish Americans is both true and false."
Dezell's discussion about CWASP's, Catholic/Celtic White Anglo Saxon Protestants,is a bit different ,but right on the mark.
The book is loaded with one-liners or epigrams.Here are a few to get your curiosity:

"No point being Irish unless you think that the world is going to break your heart someday."

"As is often the case, conventional wisdom is wrong."

"Irish blood doesn't water down very well,the strain must be strong."

"God gives us no more than we can bear." Rose Kennedy

"There is no race of people for which pychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever ." Sigmund Freud

"If you're feeling something,for Gods's sake take something."

"If I'm Irish and I lose my arm,someone is going to tell me,'it's a good thing I didn't lose them both."

A great read for anyone interested in Irish culture ,be it in Ireland,America or even here in Canada.


Rating: 4 stars
Summary: looking over a four-leaf clover
Review: A lot of the reviewers here have remarked how surprised they were to see themselves and their families in Maureen Dezell's synoptic view of Irish culture in "America" (including Canada?). I have to join these reviewers in saying what a revelation this book was to me. There is Irish blood on both sides of my family and I am also somewhat active in the local Irish-American community, so I see a lot of the type of behavior that she describes, particularly the cheerful bleakness in outlook ("It could all go wrong tomorrow, but we'll be all right ... probably.") and the careful "chopping down of the tall wheat" (as I am told the Australians say).

When I was growing up we thought of the Italians members of the extended family as having discernible "culture" and it was tacitly assumed that the Irish relatives were just "normal Americans"; Ms. Dezell points out that this is the general condition in Irish America. It is not so much that the Irish are ashamed of their heritage (although sometimes they are), but more that they don't see any reason to make a big deal about it most of the time, so each generation takes more and more of the family character for granted. The Irish have a tendency to stick together in neighborhoods and in social organizations, and I can testify to the fact that they seem to unconsciously gravitate toward one another in a crowd, drawn together by their shared suspicion about putting on airs or taking an occasion too seriously. These reasons, and their enormous numbers, enable them to forget that they are in fact a distinct ethnic group.

Ms. Dezell's book pulls aside the curtain (lace or otherwise) that hides all these quirks, traits and folkways and reveals the Irish character in all its cacophony of paradoxes, engimas, aggravations and delights. I subtract one star from my rating because Ms. Dezell comes dangerously close to being an Irish-American apologist on several topics, particularly racism, but also when examining the issue of drinking and the role of women in the culture. She also tends to repeat herself a bit too often for my taste. I believe that she is merely trying to drive home her points, but I noticed it. And, true to my ethnic roots, I can be pretty cranky sometimes.

Rating: 4 stars
Summary: looking over a four-leaf clover
Review: A lot of the reviewers here have remarked how surprised they were to see themselves and their families in Maureen Dezell's synoptic view of Irish culture in "America" (including Canada?). I have to join these reviewers in saying what a revelation this book was to me. There is Irish blood on both sides of my family and I am also somewhat active in the local Irish-American community, so I see a lot of the type of behavior that she describes, particularly the cheerful bleakness in outlook ("It could all go wrong tomorrow, but we'll be all right ... probably.") and the careful "chopping down of the tall wheat" (as I am told the Australians say).

When I was growing up we thought of the Italians members of the extended family as having discernible "culture" and it was tacitly assumed that the Irish relatives were just "normal Americans"; Ms. Dezell points out that this is the general condition in Irish America. It is not so much that the Irish are ashamed of their heritage (although sometimes they are), but more that they don't see any reason to make a big deal about it most of the time, so each generation takes more and more of the family character for granted. The Irish have a tendency to stick together in neighborhoods and in social organizations, and I can testify to the fact that they seem to unconsciously gravitate toward one another in a crowd, drawn together by their shared suspicion about putting on airs or taking an occasion too seriously. These reasons, and their enormous numbers, enable them to forget that they are in fact a distinct ethnic group.

Ms. Dezell's book pulls aside the curtain (lace or otherwise) that hides all these quirks, traits and folkways and reveals the Irish character in all its cacophony of paradoxes, engimas, aggravations and delights. I subtract one star from my rating because Ms. Dezell comes dangerously close to being an Irish-American apologist on several topics, particularly racism, but also when examining the issue of drinking and the role of women in the culture. She also tends to repeat herself a bit too often for my taste. I believe that she is merely trying to drive home her points, but I noticed it. And, true to my ethnic roots, I can be pretty cranky sometimes.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Beyond the Myths
Review: Finally someone has captured a picture of the Irish in America that goes beyond the romantic myths portrayed in movies, TV and of course, deodorant soap and beer commercials as well as the darker myths presented by the media during the days of busing in Boston. The research for this book was extraordinary, tracing Irish influences in Chicago, San Francisco and Montana and the writing style was engaging. All my relatives are reading it.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The Most Well Balanced Treatment of Irish America
Review: I didn't expect to like this book, but I was pleasantly surprised. Dezell is fair in her treatment of the American Irish, both their good points and their bad. I would recommend this book to anyone starting to read in this field. It's fair, it's well written and it's accurate. Most books on this subject tend to be slanted one way or the other (depending on the slant). Dezell avoids extremes. Well done!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Oh, It's So True!
Review: I'm a Jew from New York, married to someone from South Boston. One of my familys closest friends (now regrettably desceased) came to the US from Belfast at the age of 10. Maureen Dezell has great interviews and made me laugh because I can see all of what she is talking about. I also have friends in Toastmasters from Ireland, and look forward to visiting in 2004. Then I can see the other side of Maureen Dezell's book. The book can be read in a quiet evening. Think of a deep psychological tome, only very readable and funny.
Her description of Michael Flatley and Riverdance keeps popping up.
No, I wont tell you. Read the book!

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Irish Approval
Review: Maureen Dezell's book is not only insightful and informative, it is absolute joy to read. Maureen has a wonderful combination of wit and candor. As a second generation Irish American, it provided me with a better understanding of my culture, my family, and myself. Finally, someone has taken an in-depth and thorough look at the important contributions of Irish Americans.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: Finally, The Truth about Irish America
Review: Maureen Dezell's book is not only insightful and informative, it is absolute joy to read. Maureen has a wonderful combination of wit and candor. As a second generation Irish American, it provided me with a better understanding of my culture, my family, and myself. Finally, someone has taken an in-depth and thorough look at the important contributions of Irish Americans.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: The True Story
Review: Maureen has given the Irish their due while admitting their advantage (English) and their weaknesses. As a second generation Irish American, I find her appraisal echoing much of what I learned from my parents in an unusually well documented and readable fashion.

Rating: 5 stars
Summary: What makes the American Irish "tick"
Review: Normally I regard sociological studies as palatable as a tongue depressor. However, this is rivetting, readable, and entertaining. Clearly my interest was piqued because it explores in comprehensive detail my ethnic group. The American Irish (or Irish Americans) will find this a very compelling and satisfying read.

The book studies the Irish diaspora in the various areas of this vast country and points out how the different locations and parallel immigrations resulted in American Irish of significantly varying success, acclimation, and temperment (e.g.: San Francisco v. Chicago v. NY v. Boston). However, regardless of their differing opportunities Denzell notes the seemingly subtle but enduring culture and driving forces which endure among the American Irish -- such as a reluctance to feel secure with material success, gregariousness, and restrained demonstration of emotion. What is perhaps most interesting is that Denzell points out how most Americans, and even the American Irish, are unaware of any specifically Irish American cultural patterns,though they are pervasive and inescapable, if seemingly oblique.

Reading this book I came to understand the motivations for my own behavior much better. Heretofore I thought they were simply the quirks of my own family; reading Denzell one is struck by the strength of these historic roots. While the book describes us, warts and all, it leaves the American Irish reader with a satisfying sense of comfort and pride (not that we'd ever publicly admit it).


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